Socrates Redux — Redux

 …The devoted reader will of course remember how Graham’s long fret ahem, extensive and informed meditation on the implications of human-machine brain transfer, Socratic Angst, elicited an extensive and erudite response from a friend, hereinafter known as YetAnotherChap. The Chaps considered this both bore reprinting in full, as it was at Socrates Redux, and a full response, hopefully equally erudite.
However, as it falls to Graham, we will have to see what emerges …

Graham repeats …
… the previous cogitating, girding loins for discourse, clearing throat, and…

Not again …

… and begins, IF you don’t mind, by reviewing and summarizing Yet Another Chap’s comments and arguments against the possibility of the proposed human-machine transfers. To wit …

Reliance on a faulty model.

The brain removal and replacement, or replication, approach, leans heavily and egocentrically on a Cartesian-dualist information-processing model, assuming the entire “persona” is contained within the neurological structure of the brain.


Effect of sensory deprivation.

The “person” is not simply contained within an organic structure, but derives identity from environmental interaction, through the senses. To replicate the “person” one must also replicate senses and perception (by implication, the entire perceptual history of the individual). Any artificial reconstruction there will also add artificiality, inauthenticity, to the reproduction.


Consciousness

…cannot, in fact, be separated from or exist without those senses, or the accretion of sensory perceptions over time.

 

 


But There’s More ….

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Socratic Angst

Graham is concerned about Socrates …

… well, not Socrates exactly. But it starts with him.

Unexamined is one thing, but what if the exam already took place without our knowledge? This chap continues with the fear that if the Unexamined status were ended right now, he might actually fail…

Or considered another way — how much examination is enough, and how much too much? That thought was triggered by this quote … Continue reading “Socratic Angst”

Further musings on AI, programming and music

Graham kept thinking…

… about AI and programmed music, as previously discussed by us chaps, and the differences, and some subtle gradations. Yes, some machine-generated music is surely programmed, following a routine established by the “author.” This, for example, while lovely, is clearly an analog-programming-generated piece:

as is this … Continue reading “Further musings on AI, programming and music”

Dude, Where’s All Our Cars?

(Almost-Dr.) Graham puts on a professional hat and speculates …

Kids of 2017 will never get to drive a car, at least according to a leading roboticist. What could this mean, to them and the rest of us?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/science/sd-me-robots-jobs-20161213-story.html

Deeper implications to that – than immediately apparent. Developmentally,  driving a car might have been the first experience a youth had of performing simultaneous tasks requiring a lot of practice to transfer to muscle/automatic memory. Does the now-common experience of simultaneously doing homework (hah!), watching streaming video,  and chatting online make up for that?

Wait,  though,  there’s more…

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