Socrates Redux — Redux

 …The devoted reader will of course remember how Graham’s long fret ahem, extensive and informed meditation on the implications of human-machine brain transfer, Socratic Angst, elicited an extensive and erudite response from a friend, hereinafter known as YetAnotherChap. The Chaps considered this both bore reprinting in full, as it was at Socrates Redux, and a full response, hopefully equally erudite.
However, as it falls to Graham, we will have to see what emerges …

Graham repeats …
… the previous cogitating, girding loins for discourse, clearing throat, and…

Not again …

… and begins, IF you don’t mind, by reviewing and summarizing Yet Another Chap’s comments and arguments against the possibility of the proposed human-machine transfers. To wit …

Reliance on a faulty model.

The brain removal and replacement, or replication, approach, leans heavily and egocentrically on a Cartesian-dualist information-processing model, assuming the entire “persona” is contained within the neurological structure of the brain.


Effect of sensory deprivation.

The “person” is not simply contained within an organic structure, but derives identity from environmental interaction, through the senses. To replicate the “person” one must also replicate senses and perception (by implication, the entire perceptual history of the individual). Any artificial reconstruction there will also add artificiality, inauthenticity, to the reproduction.


Consciousness

…cannot, in fact, be separated from or exist without those senses, or the accretion of sensory perceptions over time.

 

 


But There’s More ….

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Socratic Angst

Graham is concerned about Socrates …

… well, not Socrates exactly. But it starts with him.

Unexamined is one thing, but what if the exam already took place without our knowledge? This chap continues with the fear that if the Unexamined status were ended right now, he might actually fail…

Or considered another way — how much examination is enough, and how much too much? That thought was triggered by this quote … Continue reading “Socratic Angst”

The Turing Test

The chaps have touched on this topic a lot recently. The cartoon says it all.

Our thanks to yet another chap who provided the image. He wasn’t sure about the copyright … neither is this chap. BUT – he checked the internet and found it doing the rounds – so I assume we are safe. However – credit where credit is due – here is where it all started.

Further musings on AI, programming and music

Graham kept thinking…

… about AI and programmed music, as previously discussed by us chaps, and the differences, and some subtle gradations. Yes, some machine-generated music is surely programmed, following a routine established by the “author.” This, for example, while lovely, is clearly an analog-programming-generated piece:

as is this … Continue reading “Further musings on AI, programming and music”

Now THAT’s AI


John read this morning …

… that some wag has developed a robot to complete the ‘I am not a robot’ captcha that some sites seem to enjoy putting humanity through the ringer on. John couldn’t have cared less. This. This robot here. This robot he could care a lot about.

You know the singularity has arrived when the robots start playing marimbas. Shimon, engineer Guy Hoffman’s robot musician, doesn’t play programmed music — it improvises in ensembles with human players, communicating with a “socially expressive head” and favoring musical ideas that are unlikely to be chosen by humans, so as to lead the performance in genuinely novel directions.

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Has Anyone In The EEC Read Asimov

John recalls the following common knowledge

  • A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  • A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  • A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

The ‘laws’ were postulated by one Isaac Asimov back in 1942. Over the years they have served us well. And then god damn it – we went and started actually developing robots in real life. Continue reading “Has Anyone In The EEC Read Asimov”