A slight break in the flow … but an important one ….
When it is important, you just have to do it. This is one of those things. When the chaps started Ad Venting this Advent, one of the other chaps reminded us of the celebration of Zappadan a period of time that should not go unnoticed … Dec. 4th (The date of his death) to today … Dec. 21st. (the date of his birth.)
… yes – we know that is ‘Bass Ackwards’ – but what are you going to do?
“It isn’t necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice. There are two other possibilities: one is paperwork, and the other is nostalgia.
Zappadan: A message of hope for the season
The first night of Zappadan is called Bummernacht and should be celebrated on Dec. 4.
But it’s not too late. Redemption can be achieved by listening 3 times to Lumpy Gravy.
Some say that you should listen to Lumpy Gravy 3 times – but ‘some’ are wrong.
Side – yet interesting note …. Lumpy Gravy was released 50 years ago this year. This chap has written previously and elsewhere about the formative musical foundations that 1967 gave us – adding this one to that catalogue.
As I was saying … THEN …. be prepared to …
But be sure to keep the true spirit of Ramadan Zapadan (stand by for a separate post on this!), which ends today (December 21st), knowing that full well …
And in honor of Zapadan – of course – it is only the right thing to do.
… from even yet another chap that is not the same as this other chap – nor indeed yet another chap that kicked off all this ‘yet another chap’ malarkey. I think the chaps are going to have to come up with a more logical ontology to hold it all together.
Anyway, suffice to say that this chap – not this chap (as in myself), no, the chap about which I started speaking …. has definitely not been quoted on this site before. The chap was explaining that a word he used in an email was his attempt to influence the OED … and then regaled this chap with this story …
The OED has a process and criteria for accepting new words — words such as “mondegreen” which was created by a woman who, as a child, listened to her mother read to her and misunderstood the phrase, “They’ve slain the Earl of Glammis and laid him on the green” to be “They’ve slain the Earl of Glammis and Lady Mondegreen.” Now, modegreen is in the OED. I love it!
Yet Another Chap
… and so do I.
Well, in that case you might just enjoy this from the NEW YORKER.
… or just a chap trying to get things right. This is the question for the day.
This Chap Was Happy To Publish .. this on one of his other sites. It’s a tiny little rant on accuracy in reporting, Even yet another chap … not the other chap … nor yet another chap – no this was even yet another chap …
…The devoted reader will of course remember how Graham’s long fret ahem, extensive and informed meditation on the implications of human-machine brain transfer, Socratic Angst, elicited an extensive and erudite response from a friend, hereinafter known as YetAnotherChap. The Chaps considered this both bore reprinting in full, as it was at Socrates Redux, and a full response, hopefully equally erudite.
However, as it falls to Graham, we will have to see what emerges …
Graham repeats …
… the previous cogitating, girding loins for discourse, clearing throat, and…
Not again …
… and begins, IF you don’t mind, by reviewing and summarizing Yet Another Chap’s comments and arguments against the possibility of the proposed human-machine transfers. To wit …
Reliance on a faulty model.
The brain removal and replacement, or replication, approach, leans heavily and egocentrically on a Cartesian-dualist information-processing model, assuming the entire “persona” is contained within the neurological structure of the brain.
Effect of sensory deprivation.
The “person” is not simply contained within an organic structure, but derives identity from environmental interaction, through the senses. To replicate the “person” one must also replicate senses and perception (by implication, the entire perceptual history of the individual). Any artificial reconstruction there will also add artificiality, inauthenticity, to the reproduction.
…cannot, in fact, be separated from or exist without those senses, or the accretion of sensory perceptions over time.
… sometimes these dialogues live on beyond the publication date, even when there are just two chaps chatting. That is why the chaps are trying to work out how to not lose that spirit, but at the same time make sure our esteemed readers also benefit from the ‘chap rap’.
Trust me, it’s complicated enough when just two chaps are involved, but we are confident that we will get there. But now there’s a bit of a wrinkle. Turns out that even before we arrive at a solution, yet another chap has weighed in on the comments, where we also dialogue.
Not of itself a problem – afterall – comments have been scurrying in for a while now. No, the problem lies with the other chap …
oh yeah – blame it on me
… who is not satisfied with leaving a particular dialogue in the comments but rather wants to introduce the other chap and bring one of those comments into a post of its own. Are you with me?
The chaps have touched on this topic a lot recently. The cartoon says it all.
Our thanks to yet another chap who provided the image. He wasn’t sure about the copyright … neither is this chap. BUT – he checked the internet and found it doing the rounds – so I assume we are safe. However – credit where credit is due – here is where it all started.